Health Insurance Reform?
Okay, why is everybody getting so upset over it, i havnt seen one thing that says that seniors are gonna just die off, i mean Obama is one of the only presidents i know that promised something before being president this big, and actually attempted to get it done, i mean, the big issue was health care this heath care that, now that we have a chance to get it, people are trying to stop it for some reason.
take for example death panels, those have been around with health insurance for people they refuse to cover for decades, now that its gonna be in the reform, people use it as an excuse not to have reform.
i mean, really, regardless of more taxes, arent more people gonna live then previously?
and if u dont agree with me, then name 3 things worse about the insurance package being suggested than wat it is now
thanks for your input
I can only tell you why *I* am upset about it.
1. I’m still LIVID over the $700,000,000,000 bailout. The USA can’t afford that, and now our politicians want to commit to ANOTHER, what, 27 TRILLION dollars? Where do they think that money is going to COME from? Oh, right. They don’t care.
2. over 1,000 pages of bill, and most of it is “to be determined”. I’m so sick and tired of bills that are that long, I’d vote for any flipping politician that would agree to pass a constitutional ammendment that says, all bills must be one page or less, 12 point, single spaced, 8 1/2 by 11. It really burns my rear that politicians typically add on so much extra pork, that the NAME of the bill, only covers a tiny portion of what they are actually spending. ONE PAGE BILLS! If it can’t be described in one page, it needs to be broken out as two different bills!
3. The vast majority of Americans here – and even a whole bunch of illegals – already HAVE health insurance! This is all about a very, very SMALL percentage of the American population here!!
4. The politicians want to make changes to OUR health coverage – yours and mine – but not THEIRS. They refuse to be bound by what’s good enough for you and me! Kinda like, when was the last time a politician sent their own kids to the local public school? Yeah, that’s a laugh.
5. No. More people are NOT going to live, than previously. Simple math will tell you, it’s going to cost us – all the taxpayers – about $5,000 per month, per person, under this plan. Most people can’t afford to pay that much in taxes, to cover the cost . . . So, where does the money come from? Oh, see #1 – to be determined.
Here’s a couple links for a whole lot more than three worse things:http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthC…http://swfreedomlover.wordpress.com/2008…
I actually had a chat with my pediatrician yesterday. He’s convinced that the pediatricians, general practicioners, family medicine guys will all go out of business under national health care. His idea, is government run free clinics. Government paid doctors for employees. Kinda like DMVs for medical care. Anyone who wants free care, can just show up, and wait in line to be seen. Open 4 – 5 in each state, all paid by the federal government.
It would be very interesting. I know that now, here in Houston, the average wait at Texas Children’s is 16 hours, in the emergency room. I do think it would be days, at a free clinic – but that’s the best way to contain costs.
I personally feel the government has enough control over my life. This is information I got from my Congressman.
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An independent analysis of the Democrat health care reform proposal (H.R. 3200) concluded that the bill would cause 114 million Americans to lose their current coverage as private sector employers drop health care insurance benefits during the transition to the “public option.” Two million seniors would lose the option to stay in the Medicare Advantage health plan because of payment cuts in the bill. In addition, businesses – with as few as three employees – which do not offer government-approved health coverage would be required to pay an eight percent penalty on gross wages. We already lost six million jobs since the beginning of the current recession. According to the economic modeling developed by Dr. Christina Romer, now Chair of the President’s Council of Economic Advisors, the new tax could result in the loss of nearly five million additional jobs. With H.R. 3200 placing a prohibition on enrolling new individuals (other than dependents) in private health plans and the government giving subsidies to the “public option” plan, no private entity will be able to compete against the “public option,” eventually resulting in only one option.the government-run plan. The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) concluded that H.R. 3200 would actually increase the number of uninsured Americans within three years. I firmly oppose legislation that places health care choices in the hands of government bureaucrats rather than the individual.
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Here are some issues I have outside of what people have previously discussed. We currently have programs set up like Medicaid and other government programs that WE SCREWED UP! To watch someone pull up in an Escalade or Lincoln Town car who DOES NOT WORK and they pull out their food stamps at the grocery store or their Medicaid card and there is nothing wrong with them (no reason they can’t work). We couldn’t set boundaries for people who are ripping us off as is it, but you want to put boundaries on what I choose to do health wise. I work and work hard to get what I have. I don’t drive an Escalade or anything fancy… in fact my car is almost 10 years old now. I’m tired of watching crack heads, dope dealers and users get everything for free and when I work they want to take away the good benefits of my job it’s outrageous. My company has already started to let people go (even though our lovely president says the recession is ending) and they aren’t done. This will only get worse if he is allowed to take over the current health care system.
I can truly go on and on, but I think this gives you an idea of my thoughts
This Isn’t Reform, It’s Robbery
By Chris Hedgeshttp://www.informationclearinghouse.info…
Percentage change since 2002 in average premiums paid to large US health-insurance companies: +87%
Percentage change in the profits of the top ten insurance companies: +428%
Chances that an American bankrupted by medical bills has health insurance: 7 in 10
—Harper’s Index, September 2009
August 24, 2009 “TruthDig.com” — Capitalists, as my friend Father Michael Doyle says, should never be allowed near a health care system. They hold sick children hostage as they force parents to bankrupt themselves in the desperate scramble to pay for medical care. The sick do not have a choice. Medical care is not a consumable good. We can choose to buy a used car or a new car, shop at a boutique or a thrift store, but there is no choice between illness and health. And any debate about health care must acknowledge that the for-profit health care industry is the problem and must be destroyed. This is an industry that hires doctors and analysts to deny care to patients in order to increase profits. It is an industry that causes half of all bankruptcies. And the 20,000 Americans who died last year because they did not receive adequate care condemn these corporations as complicit in murder.
The current health care debate in Congress has nothing to do with death panels or public options or socialized medicine. The real debate, the only one that counts, is how much money our blood-sucking insurance, pharmaceutical and for-profit health services are going to be able to siphon off from new health care legislation. The proposed plans rattling around Congress all ensure that the profits for these corporations will increase and the misery for ordinary Americans will be compounded. The corporate state, enabled by both Democrats and Republicans, is yet again cannibalizing the Treasury.
Obama and the congressional leadership have shut out advocates of single-payer. The press, including papers such as The New York Times, treats single-payer as a fringe movement. The television networks rarely mention it. And yet between 45 and 60 percent of doctors favor single-payer. Between 40 and 62 percent of the American people, including 80 percent of registered Democrats, want universal, single-payer not-for-profit health care for all Americans. The ability of the corporations to discredit and silence voices that represent at least half of the population is another sad testament to the power of our corporate state.
In the USA we currently have the best healthcare in the world. How can you tell, the leaders of almost every country in the world come to the US when they need treatement. This will certainly change with a socialized medicine system.
In countries with socialized medical systems, the government determines what diseases should be treated. For example: If you are in England, if you are diagnosed with cancer you better hope it is breast cancer. They treat breast cancer. Other forms of cancer are not treated. Is this what you want in the US?
Almost all US companies with Canadian employees in Canada provide supplemental insurance. Why? So they can see a doctor. In Canada it’s up to a 6-month wait to see a doctor = you either get better or die during that time. Is that what you want in the US?
Yes, we need reform for premium costs. Beyond, why would we want them to change something that’s already working.